abcnews.com. "jimmy kimmel" is coming up next. we'll see you here tomorrow. >> dicky: tonight on "jimmy kimmel live." >> i would have them coming out on halloween. if your parents freak out, i'm just kidding. it's a costume, i'm just dressed as lady gaga. >> dicky: kevin james. >> mailbox. >> dicky: ezra miller and unnecessary censorship. >> he's saying he's hundred and eighty million dollars for maryland schools. that's a lot of money. my classroom. games and a new casino for maryland. million more for education every year. the money goes where it's supposed to. it's the law. this is about our kids. this is about better schools. seven. i'm voting for question seven. i'm voting for question seven.

>> dicky: from hollywood, it's "jimmy kimmel live." tonight, kevin james, ezra miller and music from bloc party with cleto and the cletones and now here we go again, here's jimmy kimmel! [ applause ] [ cheers and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: thank you, thank you. that's very nice.

thank you. i'm jimmy, i'm the host of the show. thank you for watching, thank you for being here tonight. i just -- i have to say something, i just put a little purel on my hands so i'm as fresh clean as i can possibly be. it rained today here, which i think -- i think it's the first time it ever happened, right? [ laughter ] i know it sounds dumb, but i actually went outside to look at the rain, it hasn't rained in so long. it looked wet. it looked like rain. i guess it's good. we need the rain in southern california to water our medical marijuana plants. the other nice thing is, when the rain lets up, you can go to the storm drains and pick your own chihuahua. because they all -- thank you for braving the elements to join me on this journey of friendship and laughter tonight. you know, tomorrow here in l.a. we have something unusual going on. thousands of people all over town are expected to gather to watch the space shuttle "endeavour" roll through the streets of los angeles.

last month, they flew it on the back of a 747 to l.a. it's been sitting there for the past few weeks and tomorrow, they're going to roll it through the streets of l.a. to the california science center where it will be on permanent display. the shuttle is 5 stories tall, weighs 77 met trick tons, which is about 170,000 pounds. maybe they should have done this before gas prices went up to $5 a gallon. they're not rocket scientists -- oh, wait, they are rocket scientists. [ laughter ] the city is closing streets down to get the "endeavour" through. you have to admit, space shuttle jam is a pretty awesome reason to be late for work. some of the businesses along the route aren't happy about the street closures, including the guy who owns local landmark randy's doughnuts. >> the so-called mother of all parades as named by the mayor is more like the bummer of all parades because of the street closures and all the business he could have had. put a space shuttle in the middle of the donut. >> that's neat. really had fun putting that up there and enjoyed seeing the

reaction. >> what happened? >> people say, oh, there's a space shuttle in your donut. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: and they're right. there is. [ applause ] why is his name ron? by the way, what happened to randy? i want randy back. today, by the way, is national coming out day. did you remember to call your -- [ applause ] did you remember to call your folks and tell them you're gay today? i hope so. national coming out day is traditionally followed by national "i knew it" day. and then next month is national awkward silence at thanksgiving dinner day. national coming out day is held on the third "project runway" of october. see, i would do, if i was in charge, i would have national coming out day on halloween because that way if your parents really freak out, you can say, just kidding, it's a costume. i'm just dressed as lady gaga. national coming out day has been

around for 24 years. but in my opinion, it didn't become an official holiday until this year when it was finally given its own charlie brown holiday special. >> isn't there anyone who knows what national coming out day is all about? >> sure, charlie brown, i'll tell you what national coming out day is all about. nation coming out day, ncod, is an internationally observed civil awareness day. celebrating individuals who publicly identify as lesbian, bisexual or transgender. it seeks to promote greater awareness, tolerance and celebration of lgbt culture and its many subcultures. drag queens, muscle heads, trans-men, lipstick. and that's what national coming out day is all about. now, let's dance, bitches. ♪ [ applause ]

>> jimmy: snoopy and woodstock are more than just roommates. vice presidential debate between joe biden and paul ryan went on tonight at center college in danville, kentucky. there's a big age gap between these men. paul ryan is 42 and joe biden is either 60 or 80, i really have no idea. vice president biden has a tendency to veer off message. >> biden has been out of sight for days, working in a delaware hotel with david axelrod and acting as ryan, congressman chris van hollen. he's been fuming up on gatorade and animal crackers. >> jimmy: and running around in circles, making airplane noises. it's like a snack break in the second grade. whatever it was, it worked because it seemed like someone spiked joe biden's ensure with

a 5-hour energy drink or something. he was very fired up. a lot rougher than the presidential debate. they were going at each other like ronnie and sammy -- sorry, i was flipping between "jersey shore" and that. after a third round of kamikazes. seemed to me that joe biden spent 80% of the debate trying not to curse. he actually said the word malarkey at one point. before tonight we haven't seen paul ryan talk much. he's a very serious guy. paul ryan seems like the guy you see at the bank who really hates standing in line like so much, you're afraid he might do something. [ laughter ] the debate was very structured tonight, because president obama and mitt romney went way over their time limits last week, they put safety measures in place for this one to make sure it didn't happen again. i think they got this idea from award shows. >> this is a president who has gone out and done everything he has said he was going to do. this is a guy who has repaired our alliances so the rest of the world follows us again. this is a guy who brought the entire world, including russia and china, to bring about the most devastating, most devastating -- ♪ [ applause ]

>> the most devastating effort on iran to make sure -- >> jimmy: you know, he didn't even have time to thank his agent, which is a shame. "time" magazine released some never-before-seen photos of paul ryan today and they are great. this is one of them. it's happy national coming out day, everyone! [ applause ] wish he was at the debate dressed like that. the pictures were taken as part of a shoot if he was picked as "time's" "person of the year" photo. it looks like the after shot on a billboard for lap band surgery. and why would he pose like this? i would honestly rather have a sex tape released instead -- that picture he looks like a backup dancer for 'nsync there or the guy that guards the keg at a frat party. i lovehe backdrop here because it looks like he's working out

in a sears portrait studio or something. this one is the best. this is the poster -- [ laughter ] the poster rush limbaugh has hanging over his bed. [ laughter ] his physique. you could cut medicare with that. we might wind up -- we might possibly have our first vice president who kisses his biceps every morning. in other news, there were rumors today that a nude photo of justin bieber leaked. yesterday justin bieber tweeted that his computer and camera had been stolen while he was doing a concert. and then a nude photo of him, or, i don't know, well, you look. look at this and you decide. is that -- i don't know, it doesn't look canadian to me. justin's fans are challenging the authenticity of the shot. they say the belly button and the nipples don't match. justin's real nipples are heart-shaped. i don't know if you know that. obviously we can't show a naked picture whether it's justin or

not, but instead we asked some members of our studio audience tonight to draw what they think a naked picture of justin bieber would look like, and i have some of them now. all right, we'll start with this one. this is from amanda campos of st. charles, illinois. you know what, the -- the bieber needs work, but i like the bathtub. all right. what else do we have here? this is -- i don't know. it's either a toilet or the loch ness monster. okay, here's, oh, justin bieber at caesars palace relaxing with prince harry by a pool table in the nude. kind of cute. this is a little maple leaf underpant. this is from the popular cartoon, bieber and butthead. and this is my favorite. this is very -- minimalist. this is -- this is greg st.

marie from snoqualmie, washington. where is greg? greg, nicely done. [ applause ] what was your inspiration here? >> what was my inspiration? >> jimmy: yeah. >> oh, just not a huge bieber fan, i guess. >> jimmy: okay. would you mind signing this for me, because this one is going up in my home. >> oh, absolutely. >> jimmy: pass that back to him, will you? okay. thank you very much. thank you. and shame on you. this is pretty great. this is from fox 5 news last night in new york. their regular sports anchor was out of the studio at the yankees playoff game, which left nonsports anchor gary alexander to do sports and he did a terrific job. you would never know this wasn't her area of expertise. >> to our nation's capital we go. top of the 2, unloads on edwin jackson, saying, bye-bye. four-three run bomb making it cardinals, 4 and nationals,

zero. that would be more than enough run support that right-hander chris carpenter would need, with the nerve damage before returning on september 21st. carpenter threw a five-two-three inning shutout baseball as the cards blanked the nationals 8-0, taking a two games to one series lead. >> jimmy: very -- fastball to the head back in 2008. that was something. that's a good sports baseball score reporter. here's an alarming statistic i was unaware of. according to a new report, about 40% of 911 calls made last year were accidental. last year, 911 operators got 100 million of what they call illegitimate calls, accidental 911 calls from pocket dialing. that's when you forget to lock your cell phone and you accidentally make a call from your pants. it's a huge problem for emergency responders. they are getting so many

unintentional calls that they are having trouble keeping up with the real calls. they put out this psa today to make people more aware of this. >> accidental dialing is overwhelming america's 911 call centers, delaying first responders to real emergencies. this butt is responsible for 800 accidental calls. this one, 3,700 calls. and this monster, 7,400 accidental calls. your fat ass is killing people. hold the phone! this has been a message from your friendly 911 dispatcher. >> jimmy: that's nice. butt dialing. anti-bacterial soap. and one more thing, it's thursday night, it's time for our weekly tribute to the fcc where we bleep and blur things whether they need it or not. it is "this week in unnecessary censorship." >> and here in the situation room, happening now, mitt romney says president obama is [ bleep ] from behind. >> could mitt romney really [ bleep ] big bird. just the thought of it has pbs

fans all [ bleep ] up. >> he's like a big [ bleep ] game. >> thanks for untangling it for us. >> big [ bleep ]. >> yeah, very big [ bleep ]. >> you know, this is our second season together, we didn't [ bleep ] once in the first season. >> during a stop in florida, a restaurant owner wiped off mitt romney's [ bleep ] with some napkins. >> by the way, does charlie [ bleep ] an animal? >> name something tarzan might take off his loincloth to do. >> to [ bleep ] off. >> entrusting you to retrieve the secret ingredient. and i need you to do this without any [ bleep ] ups. understand? >> mitt romney promised ohio voters [ bleep ] jobs if he's elected. >> i mean, my dad was a real [ bleep ]. >> i remember you in "rocky iii." i couldn't believe how big your [ bleep ] was. >> fire me? >> i will fire you. if you don't [ bleep ] me in this ring tonight. [ applause ]

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don rickles will be here, joel mchale, aziz ansari, emily vancamp. and then, on monday, we'll be joined by true american royalty, honey boo boo and her mom june boo boo will be here. and we're going to try to figure out their lives for them. and we'll have music from josh turner, miguel, paul weller and joe walsh. so join us next week too. you knowm our first guest from nine seasons on "the king of queens" and a number of very funny movies, he's a man who looks good in brown shorts. real good. his latest role is that of a biology teacher turned mixed martial artist in the new comedy "here comes the boom." it opens in theaters friday. please say hello to kevin james. [ cheers and applause ] [ applause ] >> whoo. thank you.

>> jimmy: this way people are tivo'ing through this interview, they will still see "here comes the boom" is the name of the movie. >> i will put it out there any way i can. >> jimmy: how are you doing? >> doing great. >> jimmy: first of all, i enjoyed the movie. it's very funny, and you are very muscular in the movie, like, i mean, like really, you look really muscular. >> not anymore. i -- the plan was, once i did the movie, i -- i did it like a year and a half ago, i got in such great shape. after the movie, i'll relax a little bit and get back into shape when it comes time to do the talk shows and stuff so i look like the guy in the movie. >> jimmy: right. >> and then -- [ laughter ] i don't know if you know this, but taco bell came out with dorito loco tacos. have you tried these things? [ applause ] i got to tell you, man. i got to tell you. the outside shell is a dorito. it up ended my life, i mean -- it's insane.

and the other thing -- did you know you can freeze snickers? >> jimmy: i didn't. >> those in conjunction kind of just ruined me. >> jimmy: have you considered suing these companies? >> they owe me something. >> jimmy: how long did you train to get in that shape? >> i trained about like 14 months, i started taking it real serious and started getting into it and going at it. and it was -- i did it like a real fighter. i wanted to really make it look real. >> jimmy: you were dieting -- >> i was drinking, yes. i cut out all, anything -- i became like vegan, almost. i was drinking greens to cut the weight and -- no, not woo. it was horrible. it was horrible. >> jimmy: most vegans don't have the energy to woo. >> yeah, yeah. it was horrendous. and even in the movie, i have to eat meat, but i spit it out. it was basically when you have a dog and you put a biscuit on their nose and they sit there, they can't eat it. they can't wait it. >> jimmy: your wife was pregnant

at this time. >> she was. so she's eating for two. i'm eating for not even half of one. plus i have other -- i have two little girls, too. and the food in my house is -- you can't stop it with kids. it's macaroni and cheese, it's hot dogs and this and that. they don't finish their food. so you're like -- >> jimmy: that's right. whatever -- so you finished with that? >> i start with that, which is sad. they get it, you're not going to finish that, are you? >> jimmy: i know, it's a weird thing when you have kids. suddenly, like, put on 20 pounds, like, where did this come from? oh, the rest of the french fries. the rest of the mcnuggets. >> but it's good to have them for that, too. i'm not going to order but she's going to have five big macs. no, i don't want that. no, shut up. yes, she wants the supersized shake. all that stuff.

>> jimmy: i heard you were at one time a personal trainer yourself. >> i was. i was a -- very long time ago and -- i wasn't very good, by the way. >> jimmy: you had clients? >> very short client list. you know what it was? i'd be like, you know what? i wasn't like very motivated. i was like, five reps is more than enough. just the fact that you showed up today is showing me something. let's get a chocolate energy bar and that's all, just one of those guys. >> jimmy: that's what i'm looking for. you trained with a guy who is an mma fighter. >> bas rutten. >> jimmy: good actor too as it turns out. >> he's fantastic in the movie. he's going to explode off of this. i'm so happy for him. he was a fighter himself. he became a ufc champ, and he came out here to this country, and we became friends together and we just had the greatest time, and he would teach me everything and he trained me for this movie, and it was awesome having him. it really is incredible. >> jimmy: and you feel like now you can really handle yourself? >> i do. i feel really good. in fact, i actually have him here with us -- >> jimmy: you brought him here tonight. >> yes. >> jimmy: and why did you bring him here tonight?

>> well, you know, i thought that it would be great to have him here because he's super in the movie but also, maybe to show you guys some, you know, down and dirty self-defense tricks that you can use. >> jimmy: i think that's great. >> you up for that, kimmel? do you want to do that? >> jimmy: yeah, sure. [ applause ] >> let's go do that. >> jimmy: let's do it. >> jimmy: oh, there he is. bas rutten. how you doing? >> good. >> jimmy: welcome, welcome. he's got the shirt, too. oh, is this the thing you do? should i take off my jacket, maybe? >> well, yeah, you might want to. [ cheers and applause ] >> you might want to. >> jimmy: oh, all right. they're patronizing me. >> that's okay. what we're going to do here is show you a couple of scenarios that -- >> jimmy: oh, weapons. >> here you go. okay, with this. >> jimmy: all right. >> let me see now. let me see, ah -- groin strike! rake down. groin strike. break down. elbow to the face. neck strike. you're out. it's done. >> jimmy: yeah.

>> it's over. i didn't -- [ applause ] >> jimmy: i wasn't expecting it to happen right away. >> yeah, i know. you know what that's called, jimmy? that's caled the element of surprise. >> well played, kevin. >> jimmy: all right. what else? >> okay, here we go. okay. what this here is a gun. >> jimmy: a gun. >> if your assailant is to come at you with a gun, the first thing you need to do is be very, very careful. isn't that right, bas? safety first. >> yes. >> jimmy: okay -- >> you must do that. >> groin strike, groin strike. elbow. elbow. and rake, rip, strike, done! [ applause ] >> jimmy: all right. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: all right. i think i got it. i'm almost unconscious. >> sorry about that.

>> jimmy: bas, i think we're done. i think we're done. >> i'm sorry about that, but -- >> jimmy: so what you're saying is, if you're in that situation, have your friend, the martial artist, attack the guy from behind? >> what you do is you use your surroundings. >> jimmy: okay, all right. >> so we have one more demonstration, all right? >> jimmy: all right. >> okay. great. oh, wow. >> jimmy: look at that. okay. it's a bear, huh? >> it's more than a bear, it's a bear with a knife, jimmy. >> jimmy: okay. all right. >> what i want you to do is, you are going to come at me with the bear, with the knife. >> jimmy: i'm going to come at you with the bear -- >> yes, with the knife. >> jimmy: push the bear towards you? >> you are going to make it happen in a second, but i also have to get ready, okay? you are going to thrust at me. i'm not afraid of it. i'm going to let it happen. oh, oh, what showed up? what showed up? oh.

>> jimmy: all right. [ applause ] you got a -- you have a bear with a gun. >> that's right. >> jimmy: okay. and, so should i attack your bear or? >> i'll tell you one thing. >> jimmy: or attack you? >> what you do is, any time you have a bear with a knife, you don't bring a bear with a knife to a gun fight, okay? >> jimmy: that is true. >> that is rule number one in bear fighting. you do not do it. >> jimmy: what situation would you see this being? >> rawr! elbow! elbow! rake him. rake him! >> jimmy: we'll be right back with kevin james and bas rutten when we come back. we'll be right back. [music: artist: willy moon song: "yeah yeah" label: universal]

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>> dicky: this week on "jimmy kimmel live" --

[ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: we're back. kevin james and bas rutten, stars of "here comes the boom," which is in theaters on friday. we just did a very, i think, educational segment that -- >> yeah. >> jimmy: it really will help people out. >> it shows you the ins and outs of being on the street. >> jimmy: and you taught this to kevin. >> lethal weapons right here. always in stealth mode. >> jimmy: where are you from, bas? >> hold land. >> originally from holland. >> jimmy: that's something else. i wouldn't have imagined a man of your violence and caliber being from a gentle windmill-like country. >> well, that's what they think. >> also heineken. >> jimmy: also heineken, as well. right. so tell us about this movie. i've teen the movie, but tell the folks. >> i play kind of like a lackluster biology teacher who gets inspired because they're going -- they're suffering cuts in the school and losing the music program, which is taught

by henry winkler, the awesome henry winkler. >> jimmy: the fonz. >> the fonz. the greatest -- nicest man alive. >> jimmy: definitely. he's definitely the fonz. >> that's all you have to say. you carry that with you. so i end up trying to find different jobs to support it and keep the music program going and i end up getting into mixed martial arts, and if even i lose, i can make some money. if i keep doing that, i can make enough money to save the music program. >> jimmy: and you brought a clip along with you tonight. >> yeah, i didn't. i was rushing out of the house and one of my kids -- >> jimmy: all right, it's okay. >> -- had a blowout. >> jimmy: it's not a big deal. >> no, but i tell you what i did. i feel bad about not having the clip with me. i got something better for you guys, because you guys deserve it. so -- [ applause ] >> jimmy: all right. >> we're going to perform the scene for you live. >> jimmy: oh. okay. [ applause ] all right. i like that idea.

>> so let me just set it up for you. >> jimmy: okay. >> in this scene, i actually just win my first mma fight, but after i got -- i actually got nervous, and i threw up applesauce on my opponent. >> jimmy: right. >> so now we're celebrating driving on the way home, it's bas, myself and the great henry winkler in the scene. >> we're going to need henry, right? >> jimmy: you're in a vehicle for this. >> we're in a car. can you get a chair -- >> jimmy: i will be happy to be henry. >> can you actually -- >> you would suck as henry. hey, guillermo, guillermo, can you be henry winkler for us in this scene? >> oh, okay. >> do have a script? >> jimmy: who am i going to be? >> you're going to be stage direction. >> jimmy: oh, that's the worst part. >> well, you know what, it's

not going to be as good in the movie because the lighting is horrible here, too. >> you're in the middle. >> it doesn't matter. they don't know that you're not in the middle in the car. okay. >> whoa, big guy. >> jimmy: who is driving the car, guillermo? >> i'm driving the car. >> no, we're in england. i shot it in england. >> i'm driving the car. >> you're driving the car. guillermo, don't mess this up for me, man. this is our shot here. you're henry winkler, you play yourself like you did in the thing whatever, just -- better than the movie, trust me. ready? >> jimmy: yeah. what do i do? >> read the stage direction. >> jimmy: all right. kevin, bas and henry winkler drive to town celebrating kevin's first mma win. >> shut up. we're driving. just drive. we're driving the car. >> who leaves applesauce on the rear dash in the hot sun? better question, who among us who isn't amish makes their own applesauce? >> yes, yes, mistakes were made but we won.

>> jimmy: okay. >> we did. >> guillermo -- >> we won. >> we did. >> all right, just -- >> then i go. shut up, it's my line, okay? >> i guess -- >> all right, i guess we did win. we did win. >> oh, wait, wait -- >> we won! unbelievable! it's unbelievable! woo! yeah! >> it's unbelievable. yeah, unbelievable. >> that hurt, man. >> jimmy: and scene. >> thank you. >> jimmy: i think we had it. that's even better than the film. "here comes the boom" opens in theaters friday. kevin james, bas rutten. we'll be right back.

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>> jimmy: well, it's good to have you here. i'm sorry i mispronounced your name. i bet you get that sort of thing. >> did you go israel? >> jimmy: emzra. >> emzra is a new one. i like that. >> jimmy: do you know other ezras? >> um, the scribe from the bible. >> jimmy: that's about it, right? >> and the poet who went insane

and became anti-semitic? >> jimmy: ezra pound. >> ezra cornell found cornell university. but these are all people i don't know personally. >> jimmy: i never imagined i would play a game of ezra trivia. and yet here we are. i heard this is your first time on a talk show. >> it's true. i'm terrified right now. >> jimmy: are you really? [ applause ] you seem very comfortable. >> that's reassuring. >> jimmy: where are you from? >> i'm from the factory filth and manicured lawns of new jersey. >> jimmy: is that right? what part of new jersey? >> bergen county. in the house, okay. >> jimmy: do you come from a big family? >> i come from a five-person family. my mother and then also my father, a classic. those are most. >> jimmy: standards. >> and then i have two older sisters. it was a female-dominated home. >> jimmy: how much older are they? >> three and eight years,

i think. >> jimmy: so you really were under their power. >> oh, yeah, completely. >> jimmy: yeah, so, would they make you play house and dolls all that stuff? >> i was the doll. >> jimmy: you were the doll. >> that's the standard game when it was time to play. i was sort of like an american girl doll, and, yeah, i -- >> jimmy: did they have special clothing for you? >> oh, yeah, no, we had entire wardrobes of women's clothing for ezra. >> jimmy: oh, is that right? >> it was most of what we did. >> jimmy: they forced you to put the clothes on? >> yeah, i would get full hairdos, makeup. i put on a dress. >> jimmy >> they would take me out and show me off. do a lemonade stand, me as a girl and the neighbor would come and be like, i didn't know you had three daughters. i was an attractive girl. >> jimmy: i can see that. is that why you grew the mutton chops? >> i'm fighting it now. >> jimmy: no one confuses you now? and did you sell a lot of lemonade as a result of the three girls?

>> yeah, i don't quite recall. i think it was more about showcasing their younger brother's femininity than actually selling the citrus beverage. >> jimmy: you had a very interesting childhood. i found out you were an opera singer when you were how old? >> well, i got into opera when i was 6. >> jimmy: how does that happen? >> i went straight from, like, the tonka truck to opera. it was like construction vehicles, i was obsessed and then this music teacher named wynn bearman, who came into my kindergarten class and was this incredibly friendly woman and she tried to get the class into opera and it failed on everybody except for me and i became obsessed. >> jimmy: what was it about opera that got you excited? >> i don't know, like broad emotional expression. >> jimmy: wow. that's interesting. and then you went to study with whom? >> well, at first -- so it started out nice. i started with this woman, lynn bearman, who introduced me. and i went and trained in her conservatory.

>> jimmy: was she shocked? was she like, wow, we never had anybody interested in opera before? you are our only student ever. >> i think she valued me for that exact reason, but then i was determined to climb the ladder, even at a young age. and so i joined the metropolitan opera children's chorus. >> jimmy: oh, they have a children's chorus? >> occasionally you need a street urchin for the opera or you need, like, the choir boys. >> jimmy: you were those? >> i was those. >> jimmy: and do you sing in that way? >> well, i had an alto soprano voice. so it was like once the balls started dropping, it was out. >> jimmy: new year's eve, it was over. >> you know, the woman who for like 25 years commanded the metropolitan opera children's chorus, her name is ellen adoria was a fascist for lack of a better term. she was a tyrant.

>> jimmy: over the little kids? >> she had to keep those kids in shape and she used to make sure our harmonies were on point and she actually used to make us call her judge judy. >> jimmy: why? >> that was just, like, that was her self-image of authority. >> jimmy: really? >> yeah. >> jimmy: so would you call her judge judy? >> we would have to. it was a requirement. >> jimmy: like "good morning judge judy?" >> more like in moments of distress, so it would be like, you know, if we were singing, a lot of opera is all about the way you make the phonetic sounds with your mouth, you have to speak all these different languages, and if we were doing something wrong, and she would go, ezra, go to the mirror, look at yourself and look at everything you're doing wrong. and i'd be like okay. okay who? okay ellen. okay who? okay, judge judy! and that was like -- that was like what she was looking for. >> jimmy: a woman that watched a lot of daytime television, i guess. now, this book is -- i'm not familiar with the book, but were you familiar with the book that

they made this movie out of? >> yeah, i was. i was -- i was friends with two older people when i first came into high school when i was 14 years old, and they pretty much stated that this book was required reading to be friends with them. >> jimmy: i see. >> required friendship reading. >> jimmy: so you read it? >> i read it, and, yeah, it was -- it was very -- it was -- >> jimmy: and then were you always hoping they would make a movie out of it and you would be a part of it? >> no, i think when you value a piece of art, because i -- it was really helpful to me as a kid. it's like a blueprint or like a map for a young adolescent person, so i think when you have that sort of bond with a work of art, like when i first heard that they were making a film, i was like, no! damn you, hollywood! is nothing sacred to you? >> jimmy: you didn't like that? >> but then, of course, i

realized -- i was like, who would do this? who in their right mind would take steven's perfect book and make it into a movie? and it's steven. >> jimmy: oh, all right. that's good. >> and so the second i found that out, i was in. >> jimmy: wow. >> but then i had to audition. >> jimmy: oh, then you had to audition. >> in my mind i was in. it was that unfortunate -- >> jimmy: well, that's kind of a cool thing. that's pretty rare. i always wanted to be spider-man as a kid, but that never really worked out for me. but i'm still -- >> you can make that happen, man. when the third reboot comes around. >> jimmy: that's right. >> i see it, some glasses and -- [ applause ] right? >> jimmy: middle-aged spider-man. very nice to meet you. congratulations. the movie is called "the perks of being a wallflower." it is in theaters now. ezra miller, everybody. we'll be right back with bloc party. [ male announcer ] connoisseurs of flavor.

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